tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4566357373248344031.post842077948174227639..comments2024-03-26T22:31:03.068-06:00Comments on Realms of Chirak: Shifting from Pathfinder to D&D 5th Edition in 2014? Maybe...Doctor Futurityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02586371999646337047noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4566357373248344031.post-75451549778007465782016-04-12T18:27:34.358-06:002016-04-12T18:27:34.358-06:00It is quite entertaining to revisit this post agai...It is quite entertaining to revisit this post again two years in to D&D 5E's success!Doctor Futurityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02586371999646337047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4566357373248344031.post-23175822754279849572013-12-06T18:44:54.895-07:002013-12-06T18:44:54.895-07:00I think we're all going to learn just how much...I think we're all going to learn just how much market share Pathfinder has permanently captured in about eight or nine months. WotC has a reputation to live down, and online sentiment seems to suggest that despite so much effort at rekindling all editions of the game that not even this will win back some people...though I suspect the most vocal anti-WotCers were never with them in the first place. The real issue boils down to how many people out there play Pathfinder because it's the thing to do right now, vs. how many will jump ship for a chance to play an actual D&D game that feels like the D&D they want. Even though I think 5E is heading in the right direction, from my own local experience I'm having a hard time seeing how it will sway my local gamer crowd to shift away from Pathfinder....unless WotC continues to pander to the audience and give us everything we really want. Will it do it? No idea. Will I be buying it? Yes. For that reason alone it's odds of success...at least in my area....dramatically improves with each dedicated DM who offers buy-in. Because in the end, the local gamers who play with me will be playing what I run, and if 5E is worth running, then they'll be playing it. So all WotC needs to do...for me at least...is make the game worth my time and they've got an advocate. <br /><br />Either way, if Pathfinder triumphs and 5E languishes...or the reverse...or both games survive on a split market, I still win.Doctor Futurityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02586371999646337047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4566357373248344031.post-18415584113882531332013-12-06T10:38:03.199-07:002013-12-06T10:38:03.199-07:00I don't think 5th-edition can succeed. 4E alre...I don't think 5th-edition can succeed. 4E already split the market to the point where Pathfinder outsold them. Those who hated 4E went to Pathfinder, other systems, or just kept playing 3.x. Those who liked 4E bought into it.<br /><br />The problem with fragmentation is that even if you like 5E and are willing to spend $150 on it... you need to convince all your friends to do so also. People happy with 4E won't pay again. People happy with 3.5, won't switch unless it that much better. And both groups will have a big lack of trust with WotC that they won't get tossed under the bus again, that WotC will make their favourite campaign settings and they won't take the obvious route of publishing lots of expensive core books.<br /><br />How good of a job would they now have to do to pull even half their 3.5 numbers back? Convince half the 4E players to switch, then convince half of Pathfinder, Arcanis, Ebberon, old 3.5 players, plus anyone who just dropped the game... etc. to switch over. 5E won't be OGL, nor would any publisher trust a new OGL license, so it won't have any help or incentive for those companies to give up their players.<br /><br />Most likely, it will just split the market again. You'll then have one more system.<br /><br />I personally don't see the problem with DM preparation in 3.5 or Pathfinder. Combats still take 1-2 hours each. These aren't something you put lightly into sessions and twists (situations, defenses, equipment, etc.) on standard monsters are fine. I don't see this to be nearly as large an issue as the 'feel' of the game, the straight-jacketing of characters, the massive prep-work on DMs from rules with setting specific elements, etc. BW022https://www.blogger.com/profile/11867480444728760043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4566357373248344031.post-35878115916163294732013-12-05T00:35:50.276-07:002013-12-05T00:35:50.276-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Cailanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08398351712759753133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4566357373248344031.post-30218478939519958292013-08-28T22:41:51.348-06:002013-08-28T22:41:51.348-06:00Heh....sorry, probably getting myself into trouble...Heh....sorry, probably getting myself into trouble with those comments. All of my play testers who tried DDN liked skills when they were there, and didn't like finding out they had been redacted in the last packet. All my Pathfinder players love skills. My old school buddies love proficiencies from back in the day. For some reason, it seems like sentiment at certain sites is strongly against skills in the game. I'll admit, maybe my problem is hanging out at rpg.net too much, but still....Doctor Futurityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02586371999646337047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4566357373248344031.post-27274740594576090162013-08-28T14:23:14.494-06:002013-08-28T14:23:14.494-06:00I wasn't aware of this anti-skill sentiment am...I wasn't aware of this anti-skill sentiment amongst hipsters and the OSR. I wonder if that's why I can't talk anyone into playing Runequest... <br />Timmy Crabcakeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14737954661234574830noreply@blogger.com